ashe: I agree with diablo giving newbs everything they need makes it boring for them and also u may get and keep newbs if u let them choose what server to play making a newb start in s2 is what's losing players

ravager: I agree with Bahamut on all aspects except his assumption of Barbaric domination.

kittkat: i agree

bahamut: dont get me wrong you have my respect as a player but you seem like you would feel.. err hard done to because you had a struggle for what you have but look at the average online daily players.. everyone i invited still plays hofa, aoho, kol or whatever and in my opinion this game is worth 10 of them.. i know you may of had it tuff but this game needs players and from what ive been told by more than enough players is what ive posted for dreamer to see

bahamut: and your misinterperating what im saying.. space gear out does not mean better gear and if it does it would mean stronger monsters to suit.. the problems going for 2 weeks with no feeling of progression not that the gears not good enough.. if it was given at a more even rate it would keep intrest longer

bahamut: weakness is waterbased but hey whatever.. please let me know when s2 is over and you get the chance to find out... btw weakness only lowers strength not damage and its not as easy to work out damage done so again idk.. and i know how to build a druid look at my gear.. im a low lvl bum compared to you but ive built the same way.. high armor high wis no dex... til lvl 60 im good in pvp soon as elemental protection comes in im screwed